These symbols are meant to be questioned (they just don’t often give clear answers)

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I have a feeling I’m going to get in trouble for my teaching. It’s not that I’m that revolutionary, or that I really even know that much more than my students. It’s just that my fundamental orientation towards the universe is to be always, always asking questions. I don’t always need to let those questions come out of my mouth (undergrad philosophy students, take notice!) but they are always in there. In particular, I tend to question fundamentals. Fundamentals, here, are those basic concepts that act as building blocks for entire edifices of knowledge. Fundamentals, here, are also those things that people most often tend to take for granted.

It’s just the philosopher in me, some might say. But, I could just have easily learned the habit in my work in a microbiology lab in my undergrad years. Or in my work as a forest ranger. Or in my all-important work as a father. I think almost any situation can be helped by a willingness to ask very simple, very essential, very difficult questions with a willingness to be surprised. The clarity of thought that can emerge from such investigations is worth the effort. It is effort, though, there’s no doubt.

So, what are these trouble-making lectures I’m giving? Well, I probably inflate myself unnecessarily. Some of it is just introducing the students to interesting concepts at an early stage – such as the flavor/element combinations introduced in the “lost” Yiyin Tangye Jing (伊尹湯液經). I’m assuming that a number of you have already read the eye-opening article by Wang Shumin, found in the book Medieval Chinese Medicine: The Dunhuang Medical Manuscripts after her extensive research into the remnants of the text found in the Dunhuang caves. While it’s not instigating trouble as such, I do think that being forced to consider these things makes the students more inquisitive, and more likely to think deeply about what they are learning in other classes. But, again, maybe I am congratulating myself a little too quickly.

Not familiar with the text I’m referencing?  The essence is this : twenty five herbs are categorized according to the five elements. This would be cool enough, particularly given that the text was likely referenced by Zhang Zhongjing in his writing. What an insight into the construction of Han dynasty formulas! But the herbs are also given flavors, some contradictory to those we know in modern times and the flavors are in turn related to the five elements in a unique way.

  • You know wood as being affiliated with sour. In the Tangye – it’s affiliated with pungent. Think of the spreading action of wood, its reaching and movement and activity.
  • You know fire as being affiliated with bitter. In the Tangye – it’s affiliated with salty. What is softer than fire? And what better to soften than salt?
  • You know earth as being affiliated with sweet. Ok, no changes there.
  • You know metal as being affilated with pungent. Perhaps predictably, the Tangye talks about sour instead. Think about the condensing and gathering power of sour, and the condensed and gathered nature of metal.
  • You know water as being affiliated with salty. Bitter anyone? Bitter is a downward draining flavor, one that is almost universally associated with cooling and making things more dense for their eventual expulsion. That is fitting for water, our “lower” (but Northern!) element, and while not condensed as such – is certainly the coolest of our elements.

In class we have been making use of these flavors as we work with our senses to understand herbs. I’m learning, of course, just as much as they are – it’s a wonderful journey so far.

One thing I’ve noticed, and something I continually impress upon my students, is the importance of keeping withincategories – at least at first. Let me explain, briefly. Consider a spectrum. On the left side, you have the world of ideas, of Form (in the Platonic sense) and of the Universal. Moving rightward you have the constellations, stars, planetary motions. Further finds you looking at the Earth, the weather patterns, moving on to flora and fauna. Getting still more focused we find the human being, but considered as a whole, and organ systems considered in their symbolic totality. Going further right, we have specific physiology of organ systems (generation of Qi and so forth) and even getting a little more narrow to consider biochemistry, genetics. Finally, we have pathology and the specifics of what goes wrong, when and why.

It’s a kind of focusing down to the smallest thing, and represents for me my process of clinical focus (whether bottom up or top down).

When I’m trying to think through something, like the flavor/element relationships in the Tangye Jing, I try to stay in a narrow part on the spectrum. So, for instance, I tried to stay on a more symbolic level in my explanation above. I was talking about the elements as they show up on Earth, but not really within the human body. They’re still in the realm of ideas. I think I would be speaking less clearly if for wood and fire I talked about pathology, and for earth I talked about physiology, and for metal I talked about the world of Form and Idea and for water I discussed the Kidney. I see that kind of thing a lot, and it sort of confuses me.

I think staying within categories, particularly when the information is unclear or contradictory, is a helpful learning tool.   Have you used something similar?  Find this to be unnecessarily restrictive?  I’d like to hear from you in the comments.

Eric



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Hi - I'm the founder of Deepest Health. When I'm not writing here, you can find me reaching out to the Chinese Medicine community across the web and in my own backyard. I currently teach Chinese herbs at my alma mater, the National College of Natural Medicine. Additionally, I'm the founder of Watershed Community Wellness, a thriving local clinic in Southeast Portland in Oregon. No matter where I'm working, you'll find my focus on the Classical approach to Chinese medicine laced throughout everything I do.

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Evan says:
02/13/2010

In teaching I think it is all important to work with meaningful, manageable chunks. Throwing something too big at students that they can’t relate to is a big mistake (often made). Focusing on sticking to a defined piece of the picture (a category) is excellent I think.

On philosophy. Bertrand Russel tells the story of Wittgenstein coming to him and asking if he thought he could make it as a philosopher. Russel said he would ask More, More said that the thought very highly of Wittgenstein – because he was the only student in his lectures who looked puzzled. Long live Socrates!

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michael says:
02/13/2010

Troublemaker!!!

I’m one of those too, as you know…. so that’s why I’ve got a question for you:

It often throws students for a loop when they read the Neijing for it does just what you are saying not to do…namely, it switches around from explanations of form and physiology to symbol and temporal or seasonal or positional reference all in the same list! Now why would those Han teachers do that to us?

Michael

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02/14/2010

The Dunhuang manuscripts are a big deal. ..with the discovery of the Tang Ye Jing, an entirely new dimension opened up in our modern understanding of Chinese herbalism and five phase theory, and in the source material for many of the Shang Han Lun’s ‘flagship’ formulas. I know that Arnaud Versluys wrote his Ph. D. thesis for his medical studies in China on the text, and he mentions the text occasionally in his lectures.

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G. Michael Reynolds says:
02/18/2010

In my opinion, you have to present the material as you see it and apprehend it. A teacher in high school warned us that “in college, you don’t take the class, you take the professor” and I think it should continue to be this way. The Tang Ye Jing flavor assignments make the most sense to me, so that’s what I teach.

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Danielle says:
02/20/2010

That the nature of the organs and the channels are opposite and complementary is a theory I have come across in my study of acupuncture. I think this may be a large leap of logic for some who read this or too obvious to even mention for others, but to me, this makes sense.

For example, the function of the Liver organ is spreading, just as its element wood is expansive, representing upward and outward movement, while the channel of the Liver has an opposite and complementary function of gathering that supports the Liver organ. It assists the Liver organ by gathering resources, drawing qi and blood towards the Liver to be distributed.

It is the Liver channel that is associated with the sour flavour. The sour flavour is also gathering, with a tightening astringent quality to it, that directs the herbs of that flavour to the Liver channel.

It is very interesting to see that these documents associate the pungent flavour with the Liver, which corresponds more readily with the function of the Liver organ itself.

This is a fascinating subject… I have not yet read this book but I am very much looking forward to it.

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karin says:
02/21/2010

Heck, Eric, we are having the time of our lives! We don’t know what we don’t know, what we should know, or in many cases even what we want to know yet, and I for one am thrillin’ on your groove in class. So rock on!

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内龙道 says:
06/24/2010

Hallo Eric,
interesting to see the resurrection of very old ideas. Here is a hint: To unterstand the use of herbs in the Yi Yins Tangyejing, you should look for answers in Tao Hong-Jings Tangyejingfatu (graphic explanation of the Tangyejing´s methods) in his “Fu Xing Jue”: To undestand this, just assume that the daoists applied the methods of the 66 ancient points (as in Zi Wu Liu Zhu or Ling Gui Ba Fa) on herbs.
Sure Liver is the wood principle of raising and spreading, so in order to promote it when deficient, use pungency (up and out); but if it is in excess the opposite direction (in and down) use astringency (sour). When the liver is in harmony it courses the Qi but if it cramps or stagnates it needs sweetness to smoothen it.
This would be a tonifying, sedating or neutral needling method depending on the five phases and their 66 Shu Points.
And there are point combinations which represent the formulas: The 6 Shen-animals (Bai Hu, Qing Long, Gou Cheng, Xuan Wu, Zhu Que, Teng She) are for attacking the 6 pathogenes,
for each Zang Organ a sedating and tonifying formula (xie gan tang, bu gan tang) in regard to yin or yang purpose, called Da..Tang for large tonifying or Xiao…Tang for draining and so on.

All in all my opinion is that in the “100 schools” of the Shang Dynasty when combing their “Principle of six” as used in meridians, pathogenes etc. with the “Principle of five” as in the elements, tastes etc. into the 10 stems of heaven (Yin-Fire, yang-fire, Yin-earth yang-earth making 2×5=10) and the 12 branches of earth (2×6 heat, wind, dampness.. etc) they also applied these combinations to acupuncture (becoming the Nei Jing, Nan Jing school, in Chinese named after Huang Di and Qi Bo) and phytotherapy (becoming the Red Emperor Shen Nong Ben Cao and Yi Yin Tang Ye Jing school in Chinese named after Shen Nong and Yi Yin).
Sounds esoteric? It is and fascinating, and logic and daostistic…
But Zhang Ji (Shang Han Za Bing Lun) was not allowed to write about daoist philosophy due to the (daoist) Yellow turfan rebellion, thus this part of the philosophy got lost, while the acupuncture part was kept. Besides he changed the formulas a bit from “logic” to “real life” situations as see in daily clinic.
But I got carried away, I just wanted to threw in a few hints and see if these seeds can grow into new ideas across the Atlantic…
Greetings,
G.

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